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Naomi1
#1 Posted : Saturday, December 17, 2011 10:59:08 PM Quote
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I really don't know how much more I can take. I just feel so ill! I have nausea, diarrhoea, and a sense of malaise that I can't explain. I am so so tired all the time I could cry. No matter how much sleep and rest I get I can't seem to get any better. On top of that my joints are getting worse instead of better, especially in the fingers, wrists and shoulders. I have no appetite for food and dread meals as it hurts to swallow. I feel so much worse now than before I started on the Mtx 14 weeks ago. I honestly feel like stopping all the medications that I'm on in a desperate attempt to feel better but I know this would be unwise, and I don't even know if it's the drugs or the RA making me feel like this. I am seeing the consultant on Monday thank goodness but don't think I will be able to get across how bad I feel. I know it's early days (diagnosed in August 2011) and I should have more patience but I feel so utterly worn down. Can anyone tell me if this is normal for RA?
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#2 Posted : Sunday, December 18, 2011 10:19:37 AM Quote
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It certainly can be RA Naomi. I've been through periods of feeling like that. But I also feel that sometimes the docs are too quick to say "Oh you've got RA, it'll be that then". without going any further into it.
Can you take someone with you on Monday? If not, then write it down (just pretend you're writing it to us, not the consultant) and hand it over to him. Tell him that you are at the end of your tether and have no quality of life and that you feel as if you have been cast adrift in an ocean without any paddles and just told to get on with it. (At least I'm guessing that's how you feel-I certainly did!)
YES I'VE CHANGED, PAIN DOES THAT TO PEOPLE.
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#3 Posted : Sunday, December 18, 2011 11:34:14 AM Quote
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Sorry to hear you are feeling so poorly Naomi.
I agree with Julie, write down as if you were writing to us, just how bad you are feeling and hand it to your consultant, that way you should get the message across.
Hope he can come up with something to help you feel better.

Love Doreen xx
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#4 Posted : Sunday, December 18, 2011 12:09:09 PM Quote
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Hi Naomi

I agree with Julie and Doreen. We all think we will remember what we want to say when we go to hospital, doctor etc and how many times do we come out and remember something we haven't said or asked. Make sure that your Consultant reads what you have written while you are there so that any misunderstanding can be rectified. It isn't easy to put across what we think and sometimes what we write isn't what we want to say. I think it is a good idea to have someone with yiou too. I hope your appointment goes well Naomi and your get your meds sorted out. Let us know how you go on.

Sheila x
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#5 Posted : Sunday, December 18, 2011 7:49:26 PM Quote
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Naomi

I am so sorry to read how poorly you feel. Unfortunately it is likely you will feel worse before you feel better. You are taking powerful drugs and it is going to take time for your body to adjust. You also need to mentally adjust to your diagnosis. I think fatigue is the worst to deal with. Do not stop your medication. You will be suprised how much it is helping you, even though it may not feel that way.

I wish you luck with your Consultant tomorrow. Hopefully they will be able to give you something (maybe a steroid injection) to help you along.

I promise you it will get better as you will learn to listen to your body and your first twelve months after diagnosis is the steepest learning curve you are ever likely to negotiate but there will be light at the end of the tunnel.

Keep us posted.

Take care

Jackie
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#6 Posted : Sunday, December 18, 2011 9:00:10 PM Quote
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Hi Naomi - just wanted to say hang in there. I posted a couple of weeks back about diarrhea which I get when my inflammation is high. As well as getting used to MTX and a new diagnosis, you are just learning what your body feels and does when you are in a flare and it is important to let your Drs know this.

Hope your appointment is successful and you get the emotional support you need to deal with all of this, as well as the continuing physical treatment and care too. xx Ailsa
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#7 Posted : Sunday, December 18, 2011 10:17:58 PM Quote
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Hang on in there. You will need to explain everything to the Consultant, I cannot add to the others
points. All means to see Good luck and let us know how you get on

Rose
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#8 Posted : Sunday, December 18, 2011 10:22:28 PM Quote
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Hi Naomi,

Sorry you are feeling so poorly - I know what the "end of my tether" feeling is like, and it`s not good. RA is such a complicated beast, and it affects every bit of us, body and soul, as it were. I can only echo what others have suggested about writing down how you feel, or taking someone with you. My husband has always come along with me, and I vividly remember one appointment where I dissolved into tears and he told my then rheumy in no uncertain terms how things were.I sat and sniffed and left him to it!

Good luck for Monday, and I hope you get your message across and something is done to help you.

Kathleen x

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#9 Posted : Monday, December 19, 2011 10:39:09 AM Quote
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Thinking of you today Naomi.
YES I'VE CHANGED, PAIN DOES THAT TO PEOPLE.
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#10 Posted : Monday, December 19, 2011 1:26:35 PM Quote
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I hope all goes well with the rheumy today and you manage to get across how badly you feel. It is how alot of us have felt at times and is dreadful to experience. The drugs take a toll on your body and also take a while to work.

I hope things will improve for you soon Naomi.

Love Shirley x
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#11 Posted : Monday, December 19, 2011 1:56:06 PM Quote
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Thinking of you Naomi and feeling so dreadful.

Hoping the consultant can really help you today- at least giving something like steroid to relieve things at least for a bit.

Sending love

Jenni xx
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#12 Posted : Monday, December 19, 2011 2:08:44 PM Quote
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Hi Naomi,

I'm sorry to hear you feel rubbish. I had Mtx tablets and was on 15mg and increased to 20mg but I felt similar to how you are feeling. I rang my nurse who got me an appointment and she suggested injections as it bypasses the stomach and goes straight into your system. I did try the inj and it was easier that I thought and it worked too. It might be an option! Worth a try.

I hope you begin to feel better very soon. Have a "Big Hug" from me, as it wont hurt and you know you are not alone.

Take care hun xxx
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#13 Posted : Monday, December 19, 2011 4:33:21 PM Quote
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Hi Naomi,

Its a dark place isn't it? Such a struggle to keep going, everything is like wading through treacle and you don't know how much more you can take or want to. So then you pick yourself up off the floor and start planning and taking control. Its really hard to do but you have got the inner resources to do it, believe me, you have, honest.

February this year was 3 months in to the MTX for me, I didn't really believe it was working even though all the inflammation markers were down I still felt so unwell and have felt up and down since. Looking back generally more up than down. After the last couple of months with a bad run of infections, antibiotics and about half the MTX I should be taking I now really realise the effect the MTX has on my body in terms of side effects as well as the effect of not taking it. It seems that I've got used to feeling so rubbish! The contrast is much clearer. So taking it makes me feel like I have a hangover the next day but without it I can feel my joints swelling and swelling and swelling.

Unfortunately its a fine balance and it takes a while to find the right one but I reckon if you can get to a more fair days than bad then that's pretty brilliant! All I can suggest is complete rest at the minute to give yourself a break.

Hope your appointment went well and you start to feel better soon

Sara
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#14 Posted : Monday, December 19, 2011 5:17:12 PM Quote
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Sending loads of cyber hugs, Naomi. I know it's no good saying things will get better, because it doesn't feel like it. 7 years ago I was in bed for almost 4 months, hardly able to move, so depressed I couldn't think beyond the minute and unable to hold my precious grandchildren. Now, 3 joint replacements and a cartload of drugs later, I feel as if I have got my life back. OK, so I can't walk more than round the house, but the pain is so much more under control and I enjoy myself. Hang in there, girl - it'll get betterxxxxx
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#15 Posted : Monday, December 19, 2011 5:22:52 PM Quote
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Thinking of you Naomi.
Hope you got some joy today.
Diane x
Naomi1
#16 Posted : Monday, December 19, 2011 5:24:19 PM Quote
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Thank you so much everyone for your replies. They mean a lot to me and have helped to lift my spirits. I saw the consultant today and she did take it all on board I'm pleased to say. I felt really 'listened to'. She has made an "urgent" referral to physiotherapy and hydrotherapy and is stopping the Mtx as of now and putting me on Leflunomide as soon as I've had the necessary tests and the induction session. so I will be taking no dmards for the next 3 weeks or so. I will post a question about the leflunomide in the drugs section so if anyone has experience here please post for me. I have also been referred to a clinical health psychologist for counselling to help me come to terms with everything as I am feeling so low mentally as well as physically. So although I still feel dreadful I have new hope. Thank you especially to Jenni B for posting on this when I know you are going through so much yourself X
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#17 Posted : Monday, December 19, 2011 5:27:59 PM Quote
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I'm wondering if maybe you could do with some anti-depressants to tide you over Naomi. RA and depression seem to go hand in hand and very many of us on the forum take them in one form or another. They have certainly helped me enormously. Just a thought. xxx
Naomi1
#18 Posted : Monday, December 19, 2011 5:36:10 PM Quote
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Good idea Jean. I don't think my counselling will be too long now so will ask them about this and if it gets too bad in the mean time then I will ask my GP. I know I am hanging on by a thread and will consider anything. X
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#19 Posted : Monday, December 19, 2011 6:57:22 PM Quote
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Hi Naomi

I am so pleased that your appointment went well today and even more pleased that you have been referred to a Psychologist. The physical pain of RA is horrendous, as we all know, but the mental anguish and depression is as bad if not worse in some cases and needs to be dealt with urgently. Your Consultant seems to be on the ball to me so well done her and well done you for telling her exactly how you feel.

Love Sheila x
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#20 Posted : Monday, December 19, 2011 7:52:25 PM Quote
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Hi Naomi

Really pleased to hear all went so well. and that you have been really understood, it helps so much.

Hope things start to improve for you very soon, and remember it won t always be like this and you be like your old self again just doesn t seem like it just now ThumpUp

Love and best wishes Julia x

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